GB3YR’s Future as an Analogue Repeater

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Next month GB3YR has been serving up HAM radio communications for over 16 years from Micklebring in Rotherham as an analogue repeater and internet connected node.

Placed near the M18, YR offers great coverage for the radio user but costs the group over £800 a year to run. This week the bill landed at SYRG’s headquarters for the site rent and associated costs for the next 12 months.

An emergency meeting was called this evening at the Three  Horse Shoes In Brierley to discuss the future of GB3YR.

SYRG reported that over the last three years YR has had little use with no contributions to the upkeep from the local HAM radio community and simply could not continue to run as an analogue repeater and node.

Rather than put the repeater and the site  to rest,  2E0BLF of UKIT togeather with M3VYV of D-STAR Usergroup Northern agreed from the 2nd of November to take on the site and costs of converting YR into a D-STAR regenerative node.

2E0BLF put to the group that DUGN could run it for 12 months on current funds and would secure it for another 24 months after this as part of the DUGN network or as a (PORN) Privately Owned  Repeater Network into 2011  and beyond.

Discussions are still going on with DUGN and SYRG to secure radio comms from Micklebring for the next 3 years as part of a long term strategy to encourage D-STAR digital comms in Yorkshire.

What do you think about GB3YR? Should it stay or go as an analogue repeater?
This is your opportunity to tell the group. Speak now, or forever hold your peace!

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41 comments on “GB3YR’s Future as an Analogue Repeater
  1. Andrew marshall says:

    I think yr as a d star repeater is a brill idea,and yes it has very little use, yr has a good footprint and i would use it, as d star is very limited from ollerton. best regards Andy M3UIS

  2. glyn says:

    Hi there

    i am new to all of this so forgive me if i sound thick.
    right is it possible to leave the analog repeater running and also incorporate a D-Star repeater on the same site therefore we would get the best of both worlds its my understanding that the analog equipment is incompatible with the new D-Star setup.
    its just my mad idea but if the D-Star group are going to be funding the site anyway why not leave in the analog as a courtesy to the people that dont yet have digital radio coms.

  3. Rick says:

    Sureley it will cost BLF and VYV more to set up a D-STAR system than it will to retain an FM repeater? As roughly 99% of hams don’t have D-STAR, and YD doesn’t get much use (and probably covers Rotherham and the surrounding area anyway), then it would make sense to retain an FM repeater service in this area, even though funding it is a big headache. Encouraging donations using PayPal on YR’s webp age is one possible solution to easing the financial burden (why not do the same for all of the SYRG repeaters?).

  4. marcus says:

    YR has a very good footprint and work well. right down to part of the city of nottingham i have used it on a good day when there been no lift.

    if is goes over to D star and the foot print is has good i well may use it.

    it is understandable that talk of changing YR to d star
    due to little useage of YR but d star is new and we still do not fully understand the inpack of d star will it become out of the price range of most hams

    has there is alredy talk of changing you for each d star group you use.

    it may lead to the deth of repeter and ham radio if it become to pricey – i like analogue has when there a lift magic happen you can hear well into the EU

    has not been use

  5. M3VYV says:

    Marcus,

    thanks for your feedback,
    YR as you point out has a very good footprint and it would be a major shift to move over to digital.
    I do not know of ANY D-star groups in the UK that charge for Gateway access (I could be wrong) and we have no intention to charge for access to any of SYRG/DUGN repeaters.
    Presently we are running on the time and dedication of the SYRG/DUGN teams.
    The initial outlay for D-Star equipment may seem somewhat costly. This said, when one takes into consideration that D-Star enabled radios also make for VERY good analogue rigs too it has to be looked at with some some depth.
    I would personally hope that D-Star does not lead to the death of analogue repeaters and certainly do not feel that it would contribute to the death of ham radio, if anything we see that it has brought a new lease of life to a somewhat floundering hobby.
    The debate will continue and all comments/ opinions are warmly welcomed. After all we need to know what our users and other interested parties are thinking before we can make any final decisions.

    73s M3VYV

  6. The only feedback I get whenever I mention DSTAR is allways the same. Its too expensive. Its not expensive to spend a thousand pounds on latest HF gear ,but its expensive to spend £500 on DSTAR equipment.The truth is, Its what you actually want to work on. DSTAR easilly has capabililities and benefits which justify its cost,but a good quantity of Hams are unaware and simply dismiss it because “Truth”(they dont actually want it) ,be honest because I`ve seen people spend far more than £500 on other transmitting equipment ,(its really a case of what you want).
    So to summise:
    I would love to see YR converted to DSTAR as I love DSTAR as much as an HF enthusiast loves his HF,and I have paid my money and I need improvement ,so I can get more from it to “keep me on it” ,otherwise it may be DSTAR thats the one to be dying due to the fact that its no good to man nor beast if you cant use it and you`ll see lots of DSTAR stuff being sold shortly after bought because theres no actual resources.
    Theres no temptation to move on to using DSTAR if there is no application in place for a large number of potential users. Theres not enough stronghold.
    DSTAR is very new stuff and can be a very daunting prospect for traditional Radio users ,it can appear very complex for anyone thinking of using it. So the system has to be as appealing and tempting enough for traditional users to take the plunge and spend money.
    In all honesty at the moment judging from the feedback I get ,I cant see DSTAR moving on much, if not at all unless USEFUL resources are created to combat equipment cost for anyone even thinking about it.
    If its good and usefull they will buy into it ,but if its minimal and restricted within certain areas.
    They won`t go there.
    Oh!! and another thing word is getting about that people think they will be ordered about and dictated to on DSTAR too! ,franky thats a little offputting to potential users.
    I would love to see another DSTAR repeater thanks guys.
    Respect to all Radio users of all bands ,nodes and personal choices..
    Paul.
    2E1HYI

  7. Ron Lythall /G0TLA says:

    Well as pointed above there are more analogue users than Digiltal and as Yr has such a good footprint and is the best repeater in this area Fm users will loose a good repeater..Why set up a Digital repeater for the minority…???
    What i think is that no matter what people think about this repeater it will be set as digital because certain people are trying to ram digital down our throats and force us to go digital ..

    I would personaly make a yearly contribution to the upkeep of the repeater providing a proper group was set up with meatings and a membership where members can have access and see where the money is being spent.. at the moment it voluntary and members do not have any say or pay membership fees .

    #

  8. m6der says:

    what a shame this would be to lose the best repeter in the north let alone south yorkshire, i personaly use this reperter on a regular basis. and have gained access to it from wakefield and hull and find it very usefull. i personaly could not aford to go onto the dstar system within the next couple of years as many other carn’t either.
    i would pay to use this repereter myself either by regualr donation or yeary as surguested above if there was a proper group with reports and a voted committy as etc
    one other thought would be get all clubs in the to add £1 to there membership fees per year and pay them £1’s to you as donations for use there is strong veiws regards the possable lose of this repeter from many pepole and i personaly feel it a grate lose and a crime almost
    can it not be coverted to run both systems side by side or simular i dont know much as i am failry new to this wourld but i DO know i will be lost without the gb3yr reperter

  9. Kev says:

    I think it would be a shame to lose YR to D-Star. There have been some good points raised by both M6DER and G0TLA regarding subscriptions and membership fees and I for one, and I’m sure there are many more, would also agree to an annual subscription to keep YR analogue.

    If funding is the problem then surely it would make more sense from a financial pont of view to keep YR analogue at no cost with membership fees or subscriptions to help with the upkeep than to convert to D STAR with the additional costs of the conversion.

    I tend to agree with G0TLA’S comments on YR turning digital regardless of it been used by the majority just to please the minority.

    Maybe funding is just been used an excuse so the minority get their wish.

    I would just like to add that I use both D-Star and analogue so my point of view is not biased in any way.

  10. admin says:

    Thanks for all your comments so far. Comments on this post close after 28 days. So please, if you have not already had your say please do so.

    SYRG will take all comments into consideration before the group makes any decision on YR.

  11. M0YPZ says:

    I will happily donate money toward keeping YR analogue.

  12. John says:

    Good Evening

    GB3YR is a good repeater with one of the best foot print around this area if not the best.

    i have notice it not being use has much these days. But most ham have not gone Difital and analogue is better. i believe

    i would like to see a d star repeater, but am for YR saying analogue has it this time i believe analogue is better. it would be a shaim if the repeter going digital cost YR and the best foot print around

    Where repeater have gone digital from analogue it has ment that i have no longer been able to open the repeater.

    i do have a d star set up and where i could open analogue repeter i can no longer do with d star.

    Has they say it all and not a thing with d star and it manly R2 D2 for me on d star

    The D star was £500 to much, it not what it was made out to be, known a handheld D star is £1000 the last time i saw the latest one from I com.

    That is too, too, too much for a hand held D star it has got GPS in it but analogue for me.

    Also with D star you can only listen to i repeter at a time with a dule band radio but you can listen to 2 and the good old analogue repeters.

    it going to be hard for the group to decide what to do i can understand that, do we look forward to d satrt which is still unknow and still in it ealry year and spend the moeny on it, which may NOT take off has it is hard to set d star radio up.

    or stick if what we know analogue and try and make YR the best in the UK.

    but if you decide to run both analogue and digital side by side it would not be the same YR

    the group needs to decide one or the other not only for cost but for the user to understand where they stand

    Thank you for listening

  13. phill h says:

    as a tower owner radio ham repeaters are normally not charged anything, alos rates are zero on the ham side as it is charity/non profit and elctricity at repeater sites is unmetered so not sure how you get 800 quid a year unless your been conned

  14. admin says:

    Where’s your tower Phil? Free rent and electricity sounds great !!!

  15. m6der says:

    just out of pure curiosity i not you say the running cost of GB3YR are £800 per year on looking though the site i found the last set of accounts in relaition to this repeter and am woundering what has incressed in the cost so much……… here is what i found

    Below is the accounts from Jan 2006 to Dec 15th 2006

    Ernie G4LUE

    Income to South Yorkshire Repeater Group 2006

    Income from rallies £ 275
    Income fromdonations £ 40
    Received from GNH £1000

    Total income £1,315

    Outgoing 2006
    Site rent GB3NA £0
    Electricity GB3NA £20
    Insurance GB3NA £20
    Repairs GB3NA £45
    New Backup power supply £265

    Site rent GB3SY £0
    Electricity GB3SY £20
    Insurance GB3SY £20
    Repairs GB3SY £0

    Site rent GB3YR £150
    Electricity GB3YR £265
    Insurance GB3YR £20
    Repairs GB3YR £86
    xtals for freq change £31

    site visits £25
    2 x irlp boards £140
    1 x link radio £35
    ctcss boards £27

    Total £1169

    Funds available to use £146

    this is for all the reperters in the gruop and not just gb3yr so without sounding rude can any tell me why the cost have gone up so much and where they have gone up as this seems to only affect the GB3YR at the moment or is there a plan to change the others as well
    as i say i dont want to offend anyone or the admin but from the figers in front of me it just add up many thanks ian m6der

  16. admin says:

    Nope not rude at all. I’ve not got the exact figures to hand. They were given out at the meeting.

    I’ll have a word with our treasurer and post them in this topic soon.

  17. KEN CHURMS G4VZV says:

    LEAVE GB3YR AS IT IS. THERE ARE FAR MORE USING ANALOGUE EQUIPMENT. WHY TRY PUSH SOMETHING THAT FOR THE TIME BEING IS IN THE MINORITY.

    NOW – I HAVE THE COMPUTER INTERNET CONNECTION AT MY QTH FOR THE MANY USERS OF THIS REPEATER WHO WISH TO USE ECHOLINK AND IRLP.

    WHY SPOIL SOMETHING THAT THE MAJORITY OF USERS HAVE ACCESS TO .
    WHAT IS MORE SURPRISING – IS THAT AS ‘KEEPER’ OF THE NODE I WAS NOT CONTACTED TO INFORM ME OF THE FUTURE PLANS.
    WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT HAD MORE EFFORT AND EXPERTISE BEEN UTILISED TO SORT OUT THE ALMOST ONGOING PROBLEMS OF BACKGROUND ELECTRICAL NOISE ON THE REPEATER – THEN I’M SURE THERE WOULD BE MORE ACTIVITY !!
    I’M NOW BEGINNING TO WONDER WHAT THE REAL MOTIVE IS HERE – IN THE DESIRE TO CHANGE SOMETHING THATS GIVING REAL PLEASURE TO SO MANY (AT THIS TIME) WHEN A CHANGE TO D.STAR WILL HAVE THE OPPOSITE EFFECT. G4VZV

  18. analogeuser says:

    so you has turned gb3yr linking off if you are keeper what has it to do with south yorkshire repeter group. when does it goes of air.
    ?

  19. Ken Churms says:

    YES , I HAVE TURNED THE LINK OFF….THAT BEING QUITE COINCIDENTAL AT THIS TIME AS I’M IN THE PROCESS OF RE POSITIONING THE SHACK AT MY QTH.
    BACK TO GB3YR – AND THE REPEATER …..
    IS THERE AN UNDERLYING ‘DESIRE’ TO GET THE REPEATER UP AND RUNNING IN THE DIGITAL MODE – AM I RIGHT ?? IF I’M WRONG I’LL BE THE FIRST TO APOLOGISE.
    CAN ANYONE GIVE REASSURANCE THAT GB3YR WILL REMAIN AN ANALOGUE REPEATER FOR THE FORSEABLE FUTURE IN VIEW OF THE FACT THERE IS SO MUCH OPPOSITION TO IT BEING REPLACED AS A D.STAR REPEATER ?
    FROM THOSE ADDING ENTRIES TO THIS SITE IT WOULD APPEAR THE REPEATER OUGHT TO REMAIN ‘ANALOGUE.
    MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A REAL DRIVE TO GET THE REPEATER INTO BETTER SHAPE SO THAT USERS DON”T SUFFER WITH THIS ALMOST PERSISTENT ELECTRICAL TYPE NOISE…..
    ITS POSITION AND FOOTPRINT IS SO GOOD – ITS A PITY IT SUFFERS IN THIS WAY … IT DOESN”T SEEM AS RELIABLE AND CONSISTENTLY AS GOOD AS OTHERS SUCH AS GB3IN,GB3YW,GB3EE …….KEN G4VZV

  20. phill says:

    please keep it analoge has D star is NOT real radio has it is, just using the internet.

    new D star radio at Lam is £1000 for a hand held we need to keep good analoge repeter likeYR and IN.

    GB3EE has not been that good for sometime now unlike KEN says, end of the day it where you live i do live on hight ground and i feel lucky being a new M6. in Yorkshire. if SYRG goes ahaed with going digital it will be unfair to others, carry out a pole.

    there are loads of D star around the SYRG YD-B, YD-C SF-B, SF-C and SN-B and soon SH-B

    Phill a new M6

  21. GARRY says:

    AFTER LISTENING TO CONSTANT ABUSE ON MY LOCAL ANALOGUE REPEATER GB3YW, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO TURN GB3YR TO DSTAR.

    I ALSO MONITOR YR AND THIS HAS BECOME ABUSED TOO. NOT JUST BY PIRATES LIKE ON YW BUT BY HAMS THAT JUST START SENDING DTMF TONES AND DO NOT ANNOUNCE WHO THEY ARE FIRST.

    DSTAR IS NOT EXPENSIVE, YOU CAN PICK UP A SECOND HAND HANDSET FOR A FEW HUNDRED QUID OR GO TO LAM AND PAY 369 FOR ONE. NOR IS IT THE BE ALL AND END ALL OF RADIO. JUST ANOTHER MODE.

    DSTAR IS ACCOUNTABLE UNLIKE ANALOGUE. WHEN EVER YOU PRESS YOUR KEY YOU AND YOUR RADIO ARE IDENTIFIED ON THE NETWORK.

    THIS CAN ONLY BE A GOOD THING.

    GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR CONVERSION TO DSTAR IF IT HAPPENS. IFOR ONE LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

    GARRY

  22. Chris says:

    “new D star radio at Lam is £1000 for a hand held”??

    They sell the E92 handheld for £369, which also does fm on 2m and 70cm.

    Go DStar

  23. Chris G5VZ says:

    Every time I use the M18 I put out a call on YR. I can’t remember the last time anyone came back. I’ve only heard two or three QSOs on YR in the last year.
    It’s a shame!
    If digital gets it used then go for it. If ANYTHING gets it used, go for it!

  24. Ken Churms says:

    I know there is abuse on the repeaters. I think its a problem with so many and I put that down to just simple mindedness and to some degree lowering the standards of the obtaining of a licence hasn’t helped. That is another subject ( and I should not go into it !!!)
    What should happen is –
    1.sort the GB3YR repeater so its in good working order.So it gives a clean almost noise free signal.To this end it may require more skilled technological advise…..
    2.Leave it as analogue.
    3.Pull together – and monitor it frequently.
    4.Don’t let it go by the wayside ‘police ‘ the abuse ourselves.
    5.Ask for contributions and market /publicise the repeater so much more – inturnn this will stinulate activity thus ensuring we have a regularly used well monitored repeater.
    I do see one advantage of digital – so I am being very fair in my ‘argunent’ for keeping this repeater as analogue. That is in digital mode you can identify the user- correct. But that is all ..the positive reasons for keeping it far outweigh the change !!!!

  25. Alan says:

    Greetings All,

    Earlier today I received the e-mail about the future of GB3YR. Reading the previous comments, there appear to be errors about the current situation, as all posts can’t be correct. Is it sparsely or well used?

    I don’t know as I live in East Anglia. Recently our handy dual-banders which we use for Raynet were replaced as it’s no longer possible to buy ni-cad battery packs for our older pair. So bought the ICOM E92D. Yes a little expensive but we expect them to last for many years, so not that expencive. We chose rigs with D-Star, even without a repeater in our area, as that is probably the future.

    Unfortunately our reason for travelling to Yorkshire regularly was to visit Carol’s father (G4YKO), who is now SK. However he worked hard to help get a new D-Star computer for Yorkshire, which we hope to use when it comes on air.

    The comment I would make is; if you decide to go digital then don’t retain analogue. A swift changeover would be my suggestion.

    Alan, G4ENS
    (XYL Carol G8ENS)

  26. Les says:

    I have been invited to give my comments on the future of YR….so here goes.Some of you may have to sit down and take a pill while reading my comments SPECIALY THE GUYS WHO WANT SOMETHING FOR NOTHING..
    I have been interested in new technology ever since I was licenced 30 years ago in all aspects,even ham radio.
    Most of the die hards who give sweet nothing in contributions who use the repeater network will SAY NO TO D-STAR digital radio.

    Some 30 years ago a 2 meter 10 watt tranceiver would cost around £300 when the average wage was £45 a week,now just think what the wages are today in relation.
    A D-STAR digital/analogue radio in respect on today’s market is not a bad deal to what you got 30 rears ago.

    D-STAR …Most of your die hards don’t know the advantages of what the D-STAR network as to offer so to all the readers who have been to Sunday school and learned to count to 10 backwards to get a novice licence I sugest that you go back to sunday school and learn about digital comunications if not I sugest looking on the internet,a few of you MAY be educated !.

    I have been involved in D-STAR over the last 10 months or so and I have seen the system move foreward not only here in the U.K. but also world-wide with many improvements being achieved.
    Take for instance GB3IN the repeater near Matlock in Derbyshire is moving towards digital as well.
    Several ham operators who are now working on the code so that digital D-STAR repeaters can now work WITHOUT having to use ICOM £1300 + hardware reapeter and can operate using a modern PC.Tests are now being carried out several evenings a week.Please visit GBIN website for further information.

    Without the D-STAR network moving foreward It will have very little to offer in the EDUCATION and understanding of RADIO of what the AMATEUR LICENCE was granted for in the FIRST PLACE.

    So guys lets move foreward or get the old morse keys out for those who can…..not many these days.
    I guess it,s back to sunday school for me I might learn something.

    Les G4RIQ.

  27. J. Robert Brown says:

    Hi fellow ether users,

    Having listened on YR for two days it is obvious that there is little or no activity. Therefore as it is not used I can see no reason for keeping it running.

    Having listened to a further five repeaters activity is definately on the decline as indeed is amateur radio.

    There is only moderate activity on YD but DV is the way forward.

    It would be prudent to reduce the number of repeaters thus increasing traffic on the remaining ones.

    D-Star Rocks.

    Robert. M0JRB/G8BUN/GB1SUN.

  28. Robin says:

    Hi folks,
    As the repeater is not being used, I agree with Robert, convert the site to D-Star and make use of the fantastic site.

    Robin G1MHU

  29. ian dermondy(m6der) says:

    hi again
    Mmmmm well just to reply to J. Robert Brown posting today, i have used the reperter everyday this week and last week everytime i have put a call out i have had a response back and some have been even better calls than the usel local traffic. i have also used this repert this week on the irlp for contact into aus…
    so i am not sure where you was listing or what times you was listing on there but i have to disareee if anything the traffic has inressed over the last 2 weeks since the word has gone around about the lose of the repeter….
    many i have spoken to have also No idea that this conversation is even going on or that we may lose it

    kind regards ian

  30. admin says:

    SYRG is actively monitoring YR and has been for some time before the announcement. We will keep monitoring.

  31. analogeuser says:

    i heard repeter abuse on monday approximatly 12:30 lunchtime and about 2 maybe 3 qso in 72 hours.pls keep gb3yr analoge, digital is far too expensive and not available for every user

  32. ian dermondy(m6der) says:

    yes i know as we spoke on friday night when i was on with a chap in wakefiled you can in at the end of the qso…

  33. Ernie G4LUE says:

    Thank you all for your input on the subject of GB3YR going Digital. I will put the argument whether to stay analogue or go digital.

    The 1st thing I would like to comment on is the ‘electrical’ noise on GB3YR which is caused by local power lines. The group have, on several occasions, approached the power line owners over the issue of cracked insulators in question, which we believe is causing the problem. As you can imagine, this has been of no avail.

    Rick (no Call Sign) says

    Encourage donations, does he have an announcement filter built in to his radios? The repeater announces that the repeater is run on donations to the group. Not 1 penny as been received in donations over the past 2 years. With an outgoing site rent, electric, insurance and running costs is over £1400. Despite the group investing in a new commercial repeater and cavities at a cost of over £2800. Rick also states that the repeater does not get much use, I agree with Rick on this point.

    Marcus (no call sign )says

    That the group intend to charge for the use of a dstar repeater this is not true nor do any other group charge for the use of dstar.

    Paul 2E1HYI comments on the cost of radios I agree with Paul when I first bought an Icom IC240 VHF FM 2 meter radio it cost me £198 some 30 years ago in today’s terms this would be nearly £1000 a dstar radio bought in the UK is less than half of the Icom 240 price and as more modes/ bands on them. So there is not really an argument in the price of rigs.

    Ron G0TLA says.

    That GB3YR has more analogue users than digital that is correct. GB3YR is analogue not digital so it will have no digital users, The SYRG are not trying to ram digital down anyone’s throat.

    Ron also says he would like to see a proper group and meetings, and where the money is been spent.

    The group have a constituted Committee, and affiliated to the RSGB £44 a year, we have monthly meetings, and yearly finance are made available to the group. It is true donators do not have a say but we do listed, the group has the final say in the groups affairs.

    M6DER says it’s a crime to loose this repeater, it would be a sad day to hand back the NOV to Ofcom this could happen and the equipment be sold on if the group drop the repeater due to under use and lack of contributions to it’s upkeep.

    Kev asks is funding an excuse,

    Would Kev like to fund GB3YR for a year visit the site every 2 months and pay for any repairs? I put £350 in to GB3YR in 2005 to keep the repeater on air.

    Phils says (no call sign)

    As a tower owner radio ham repeaters are normally not charged anything, charity/non profit and electricity at repeater sites is unmetered so not sure how you get 800 quid a year unless your been conned.

    The site is owned by a retired farmer and the site is co used as a business and commercial rates are paid on the building, we pay a peppercorn rent, and have metered electricity plus public liability insurance on the site and equipment.

    M6DER gives a report on the groups finances The site rent 2007 is £210 electricity as almost doubled, the site publicity insurance and equipment is £125 for each site except GB3SY which is on my tower and is covered on my ham insurance so if you add it up its around £800.

    Ken G4VZV says; The group should put more time and effort into resolving the noise problem this as been mentioned above. The group thank Ken for housing the IRLP computer and radio at his QTH and Ken covers the cost of the electric used. The group affairs are on this web site .

    I could be here arguing either way for a long time, there is no bottom line as the analogue repeater is used very little, constant irlp tones, no one having irlp or ecko qso’s, 6 in 10 irlp access are not followed up by a call through the repeater.

    The SYRG group are not in a position to finance the repeater and with very little use it cannot be justified as a analogue stand alone repeater.

    I G4LUE as the NOV holder I have the final say as to what the SYRG can do with the NOV.

    My options are continue to finance the repeater myself which is not an option.

    Close the repeater down due to not having the finances to continue.

    Give the Nov back to Ofcom

    Let another group have the NOV

    Either way it would not be popular

    Ernie G4LUE

  34. M0YPZ says:

    Hi. Just to reiterate, I will happily make a donation today to secure YR’s future as it is now. It’s not clear to me how I can do that, however, as there appear to be no contact details listed on the site.

    Neil.

  35. ian dermondy(m6der) says:

    i too can not find anywhere a link to or paypal or any other means to make donations on this site towards the reperters in genral or gb3yr..
    i would make a controbation myself as i use it regular and would like to see clubs in the area doing the same by way of incressed membership fees can the group not get a lottery grant or simualer either however i still say it will be sad day if it is lost whitch is the way i read the closing fottage from the NOV holder i quote” I G4LUE as the NOV holder I have the final say as to what the SYRG can do with the NOV.

    My options are continue to finance the repeater myself which is not an option.

    Close the repeater down due to not having the finances to continue.

    Give the Nov back to Ofcom

    Let another group have the NOV

    Either way it would not be popular”
    kind regards and respect ian

  36. Ernie G4LUE says:

    try http://www.qrz.com then type in g4lue

    or look in any rsgb call book over the past 31 years my qth is unchanged.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=g4lue

  37. admin says:

    Wow! the power of the internet!

    Would folks make an annual contribution online if we set up any easy and secure way of contributing what you could afford towards upkeeps – peeps?

    If that’s the case then thats reasuring.

  38. ian dermondy(m6der) says:

    yes i would make some kind of donation be it monthly or yearly
    and as for qrz looked up g4lue and it mentions all the groups, northen hamfest, 4 websites BUT IT DONT SAY OR ASK FOR ANY DONATIONS TO THEM.
    nor who to send to other than your own name and i would only make payment to the group name as others have said i would want to see proper account being pubilished. it is not personal just the right way for things to be

    are your meeting held regualy and are they open to anyone to attend . or to them that make payments to the group.

  39. Les says:

    NOTHING NEW…….It,s the same old story.
    The U.K.repeater netwowk gets very little support in contributions by the the majority of the REGULAR users on ANY repeater being analog or digital.
    I personaly have contributed £370 with 5 others to the cost of £1500 for GB3SN digital to cover the area of North Derbyshire.
    Around this area we have around 20 plus stations with digital radios none have which have inquired on how to contribute.
    Thanks to a FEW of us who personly sink our monies for the REST of the hangers on they would be very few repeaters.

    PLEASE READ MY EARLIER COMMENTS ON THIS FORUM.

    I am now learning on how the guys are linking thr D-STAR system to cover Interstate (I 95) 1200 miles from Miami to South Carolina (full coverage).

    The latest technology on D-STAR is…..HOTSPOT It,s a kind a like using your laptop computer at an airport WIFI enabled link.

    There are now 4 access points around the sheffield area and several on the East coast where it is possible to get access the D-STAR network using a digital radio.

    Only if we could link the M1 motorway (full coverage)

    GET YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND SUPPORT NEW

    Les G4RIQ

  40. Ernie G4LUE says:

    I have to agree with Les.

    Meetings are on the 1st Thurs each month at the 3 Horse Shoes Brierley 8.15 pm come and have your say.

    We are more than willing to listen.

    I must add that if there is no financial support for GB3YR it will be forced to go and I will hand the NOV back to the Ofcom or anyone I see fit to put a 2 meter repeater back on air, I will not finance the repeater out of my own pocket any more.

    Ernie G4LUE

  41. admin says:

    Comments on this topic are now closed.

    SYRG will make an announcement at the Great Northern Ham Fest on Nov 1st about GB3YR future as an analogue repeater.

    Thanks for your comments.

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